This January, the Anti Police-Terror Project opened its new building, the People’s House — a community center for abolitionist organizing. For this episode, we spoke to two key APTP organizers — Cat Brooks, the group’s co-founder, and Guadalupe Chavez, its healing programs coordinator. From them, you’ll hear about Mental Health First, the APTP’s non-carceral crisis response team, and about healing justice and its relationship to abolition.