{"id":53536,"date":"2022-10-20T15:35:33","date_gmt":"2022-10-20T22:35:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/eltecolote.org\/content\/?p=53536"},"modified":"2022-12-06T16:53:57","modified_gmt":"2022-12-07T00:53:57","slug":"silvana-estrada-explores-love-as-a-political-force-on-new-ep-abrazo","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/eltecolote.org\/content\/en\/silvana-estrada-explores-love-as-a-political-force-on-new-ep-abrazo\/","title":{"rendered":"Silvana Estrada explores love as a political force on new EP &#8216;Abrazo&#8217;"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><em>[photos by Jackie Russo]<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In the haunting vibrato of Silvana Estrada\u2019s vocals lies an existential tension between vulnerability and power. You\u2019ll find yourself sobbing in the face of beauty, smiling through sorrow, and \u2014 if you\u2019re listening closely enough \u2014 understanding that these are all one and the same. That there is strength in vulnerability, hope in pain, and seeds planted in the soil of despair.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The 25-year-old Mexican singer describes her new EP, <em>Abrazo<\/em>, as a luminous celebration of life, in all its complexity. The EP\u2019s standout track, \u201cSi Me Matan,\u201d \u2014 a poetic meditation on womanhood and protest song against femicide \u2014 has been sung in 8M marches and feminist demonstrations across Latin America following its release.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This Saturday, Estrada plays two intimate shows at Stanford Live\u2019s Bing Studio in the penultimate U.S. stop of her world tour. Ahead of the concert, <em>El Tecolote <\/em>spoke with her about the politics of love, collectivity, and what\u2019s next for her.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>I want to start by asking about your roots, because you carry them in your music. You said in an interview last year that sometimes when you listen to songs you can \u201chear the landscape.\u201d Can you speak a bit on that with relation to your music? How are your songs synonymous with Veracruz?&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I love music that makes evident not just the singer but also much more beyond that\u2014when you can hear the land, the landscape, and roots in the music. I try to make music like that, music that\u2019s very connected to my roots. Even though I often experiment with other sounds and with <em>folclor,<\/em> I always try to keep my roots present. My music carries the land I\u2019m from, my <em>pueblo<\/em>, Veracruz\u2014especially with <em>Marchita<\/em>, which is a sort of homage to my family. [The fact that] it has violins, cellos, double basses, violas, and that everything was recorded with wood instruments in a wooden house in a field is an homage to how I grew up, because my parents are luthiers and they make these instruments. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I was also raised in a house in a field, between coffee plantations and rivers, and feel very connected to nature. I try to convey all of this\u2014this sense of place\u2014so that anyone who wants to can be a part of it.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>What was your process for writing the songs on <\/strong><strong><em>Abrazo<\/em><\/strong><strong>? How did it compare to writing <\/strong><strong><em>Marchita<\/em><\/strong><strong>?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I wrote the EP <em>Abrazo<\/em> in quarantine, which is crazy because <em>Marchita<\/em> is a much more introspective, solitary album, but I wrote it during pre-pandemic normality. And <em>Abrazo<\/em> is a mix of songs that I wrote during the same period as <em>Marchita<\/em>, but that were too happy to include on the album\u2026 \u201cAqu\u00ed\u201d [and] \u201cSi Me Matan\u201d are songs that I wrote during that pandemic that evoke a lot of hope, faith, our life in the present, and connection. It was during my solitude that I truly valued collectivity, and sound. That\u2019s the big difference between <em>Marchita<\/em> and <em>Abrazo. Marchita<\/em> is a very solitary album\u2014a journey within, to my own heart. It\u2019s dark, cave-like, there is little light. And <em>Abrazo<\/em> is luminous, it\u2019s exactly the opposite. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It\u2019s a celebration of life, love, collectivity. It\u2019s a celebration of and a defense of women. It\u2019s seeing us united. It\u2019s strong. I had to live through a pandemic and become distanced from my people to truly value friendship, connection and community. It\u2019s beautiful. I love this EP because it conveys something that I myself needed to hear.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>I really like the idea of love and collectivity as intertwined. In an interview with Ecleen Luzmila Caraballo you said, \u201cI\u2019m going to make a democracy of the love that I feel. I\u2019m not going to give it all to a guy\u2026because I have all this love. I want to give it to my mother, to my father, to my siblings, to my friends, to myself\u2026to my plants, to my pets, to the world.\u201d Can you elaborate on that idea and how it\u2019s reflected in <em>Abrazo<\/em>?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>When I speak about collectivity in songs like \u201cSe Me Ocurre,\u201d or \u201cBrindo,\u201d I reframe<strong> <\/strong>love as a collective force\u2014as emotional material<strong> <\/strong>that we have learned badly. We\u2019ve been taught, of romantic love, that once we have a partner all of our love goes to them, and I think a lot of the time we stop giving it to ourselves, but also to our friends, and our families. On \u201cBrindo\u201d and \u201cSe Me Ocurre,\u201d I celebrate friends; I talk about how we need to celebrate all our connections, and be thankful for love\u2014which is marvelous in all its facets\u2014but without forgetting that it&#8217;s a force that envelops all of humanity. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Creating a democracy of the love we feel is hard because [we were raised] with stories about princesses, alone in the world until a man saves them, and to whom they give all their love in turn. Stories like that have done a lot of harm and in my music\u2014which <em>is<\/em> romantic\u2014I want to talk about love from a much more sovereign, egalitarian place.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>I\u2019m thinking of love not just as a collective force but as a political force. I see that with \u201cSi Me Matan.\u201d&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Definitely. \u201cSi Me Matan\u201d has this hope and this idea of love as a political tool for understanding, and fighting against, conflict. Now in Mexico the simple fact of being hopeful means resisting. It\u2019s hard to talk about love within feminism because we\u2019re seeing terrible things, women are living through a very difficult moment\u2014we always are\u2014but this year in Mexico especially, there\u2019s been a lot of violence. In the world, what\u2019s happening in [Iran]\u2026Women are angry, we\u2019re fighting\u2014and the best political motivation for me is love. Care. The desire to be happy and see my community happy is my motivation to be outspoken, to involve myself in the causes I find just.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"360\" height=\"480\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/eltecolote.org\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/03-Silvana-Estrada-3-Jackie-Ruso_web.jpg?resize=360%2C480&#038;quality=89&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-53541\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/eltecolote.org\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/03-Silvana-Estrada-3-Jackie-Ruso_web.jpg?resize=360%2C480&amp;quality=89&amp;ssl=1 360w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/eltecolote.org\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/03-Silvana-Estrada-3-Jackie-Ruso_web.jpg?resize=188%2C250&amp;quality=89&amp;ssl=1 188w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/eltecolote.org\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/03-Silvana-Estrada-3-Jackie-Ruso_web.jpg?resize=768%2C1024&amp;quality=89&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/eltecolote.org\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/03-Silvana-Estrada-3-Jackie-Ruso_web.jpg?w=900&amp;quality=89&amp;ssl=1 900w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/eltecolote.org\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/03-Silvana-Estrada-3-Jackie-Ruso_web.jpg?resize=600%2C800&amp;quality=89&amp;ssl=1 600w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/eltecolote.org\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/03-Silvana-Estrada-3-Jackie-Ruso_web.jpg?resize=300%2C400&amp;quality=89&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/eltecolote.org\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/03-Silvana-Estrada-3-Jackie-Ruso_web.jpg?resize=150%2C200&amp;quality=89&amp;ssl=1 150w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/eltecolote.org\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/03-Silvana-Estrada-3-Jackie-Ruso_web.jpg?resize=400%2C533&amp;quality=89&amp;ssl=1 400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 360px) 100vw, 360px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-pullquote has-text-align-center\"><blockquote><p>Creating a democracy of the love we feel is hard because [we were raised] with stories about princesses, alone in the world until a man saves them, and to whom they give all their love in turn. Stories like that have done a lot of harm and in my music\u2014which <em>is<\/em> romantic\u2014I want to talk about love from a much more sovereign, egalitarian place.&nbsp;<\/p><cite>Silvana Estrada<\/cite><\/blockquote><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>I also think it\u2019s fascinating that <\/strong><strong><em>Abrazo<\/em><\/strong><strong> is happy, because every time I listen to \u201cSi Me Matan,\u201d I cry. What\u2019s the line between pain and love?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>That\u2019s an interesting question, because <em>Abrazo <\/em>is about hope, happiness, and community. But \u201cSi Me Matan\u201d also makes me cry. It\u2019s a very honest and tough meditation on what it means to be a woman. I think that line between pain and love, and happiness, and hope blurs a lot when we honestly narrate what\u2019s happening.<strong> <\/strong>When I set out to make \u201cSi Me Matan,\u201d I wanted to make a song that was a real narration of what it felt like to be a woman in this country, and I realized that even in my pain and my grief and my fear there was a lot of love, and luckily, there was still hope. I wanted that to be in the song because it coexists within all of us, all the time. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Inside our fear and our solitude, in our feeling that no one cares for us or defends us politically\u2026there is hope, and love. It\u2019s all in there. \u201cSi Me Matan\u201d helped me understand that the line between all these things blurs, and in reality they\u2019re all just one thing: our feelings, our existence.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>For those that don\u2019t know the context of \u201cSi Me Matan\u201d\u2014 Who is the song for? What motivated you to write it?&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It took me a long time to write [\u201cSi Me Matan\u201d] because it was so hard to find the right words. It\u2019s a story from several years ago, when a young woman, [Mara Fernanda Castilla]\u2014we were the same age at the time, 19\u2014went home in a [rideshare] and was killed. It\u2019s a terrible, sad, frightening story, but tragically, we hear it all the time. What most affected me, and what most affected us as women in Mexican society, was the amount of newscasts and radio commentators that blamed her, using the rhetoric that \u2018Well, if they killed her, she shouldn\u2019t have been alone at night.\u2019 That generated a lot of pain in our communities, among women, and a marvelous hashtag\u2014\u2018SiMeMatan\u2019 (\u2018If They Kill Me\u2019) \u2014began to take off. Too often, people say it\u2019s our fault, and it\u2019s terrible. I\u2019ve seen it happen since I was a kid, and that dehumanization of victims has always affected me a lot. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It\u2019s a matter of racism, classism, a thousand things. But for this hashtag, #SiMeMatan, people would write on Twitter, or wherever, what they wanted to be said about them. \u2018I want them to say that I was a mother to three kids, that I worked, that I studied, that I always fought for what I wanted,\u2019 that sort of thing. A lot of people began writing these messages, to record what they would want to be said about them, so that no one would make up lies about our lives.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ever since I was fifteen I have traveled alone, lived at night, played in bars. When I finished playing I would call an Uber, I would go to the airport\u2014all alone, and as a woman in this country. It was striking to think that if I were killed, they would say I was exactly what a woman shouldn\u2019t be, because in the eyes of a conservative, <em>machista<\/em> society, I am, aren\u2019t I? <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So I wanted to leave my own letter, made into a song. I took years to find the words, because at first I was so angry that I was writing from a place of hatred, and rancor, [but] I realized we didn\u2019t need a song like that. [I wanted] hope\u2014to come back to love as a political driving force.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There were very powerful marches in Colombia, and in the plazas they would play [\u201cSi Me Matan\u201d] from the speakers. The 8-M Movement across Latin America sings the song as they march. I\u2019m so proud and grateful.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-pullquote has-text-align-center\"><blockquote><p>It was striking to think that if I were killed, they would say I was exactly what a woman shouldn\u2019t be, because in the eyes of a conservative, <em>machista<\/em> society, I am, aren\u2019t I?<\/p><cite>Silvana Estrada<\/cite><\/blockquote><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Looking forward\u2014there\u2019s a clear line from <\/strong><strong><em>Marchita<\/em><\/strong><strong> to <\/strong><strong><em>Abrazo<\/em><\/strong><strong>. Any plans for what\u2019s next? What are you looking forward to?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Yes! In quarantine I made so many songs and I have a whole album of new music that I\u2019m working on and want to release<strong>,<\/strong> probably next summer. I\u2019m excited, there are songs I really like\u2026about love and heartbreak again [<em>laughs<\/em>] because they\u2019re the themes I\u2019m most drawn to. And I\u2019m happy to be back in Mexico, where I can work on all this material and perform it as soon as possible.<strong>&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"360\" height=\"480\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/eltecolote.org\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/01-Silvana-Estrada-1-Jackie-Russo_web.jpg?resize=360%2C480&#038;quality=89&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-53543\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/eltecolote.org\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/01-Silvana-Estrada-1-Jackie-Russo_web.jpg?resize=360%2C480&amp;quality=89&amp;ssl=1 360w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/eltecolote.org\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/01-Silvana-Estrada-1-Jackie-Russo_web.jpg?resize=188%2C250&amp;quality=89&amp;ssl=1 188w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/eltecolote.org\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/01-Silvana-Estrada-1-Jackie-Russo_web.jpg?resize=768%2C1024&amp;quality=89&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/eltecolote.org\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/01-Silvana-Estrada-1-Jackie-Russo_web.jpg?w=900&amp;quality=89&amp;ssl=1 900w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/eltecolote.org\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/01-Silvana-Estrada-1-Jackie-Russo_web.jpg?resize=600%2C800&amp;quality=89&amp;ssl=1 600w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/eltecolote.org\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/01-Silvana-Estrada-1-Jackie-Russo_web.jpg?resize=300%2C400&amp;quality=89&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/eltecolote.org\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/01-Silvana-Estrada-1-Jackie-Russo_web.jpg?resize=150%2C200&amp;quality=89&amp;ssl=1 150w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/eltecolote.org\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/01-Silvana-Estrada-1-Jackie-Russo_web.jpg?resize=400%2C533&amp;quality=89&amp;ssl=1 400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 360px) 100vw, 360px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Fresh off of her latest EP \u201cAbrazo,\u201d Silvana Estrada, a Mexican musician and songwriter from Veracruz, will be performing on Oct. 22 at Stanford Live\u2019s Bing Studio in the penultimate U.S. stop of her world tour.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-pullquote has-text-align-center\"><blockquote><p>I took years to find the words, because at first I was so angry that I was writing from a place of hatred, and rancor, [but] I realized we didn\u2019t need a song like that. [I wanted] hope\u2014to come back to love as a political driving force.&nbsp;<\/p><cite>Silvana Estrada<\/cite><\/blockquote><\/figure>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[photos by Jackie Russo] In the haunting vibrato of Silvana Estrada\u2019s vocals lies an existential tension between vulnerability and power. You\u2019ll find yourself sobbing in the face of beauty, smiling through sorrow, and \u2014 if you\u2019re listening closely enough \u2014 understanding that these are all one and the same. 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